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Wai Ling Said,
March 7th, 2008 @2:30 pm  

Thanks for the sharing. I agree that most of the financial instruments whether it is option, forex, future,….etc with great “leverage” advantages are double-edged swords. You can make big buck and at the same time you can lose big time. It is depending on how much you know the financial instruments and how do you minimize your risk.

There is always risk in any business. Trading is just like when you are driving a car. It is very risky to drive a car before you learn how to manage the car to minimize the risk when you on the road.

Hence, It is depending on how much you know the subject matters and how can you manage and minimize the risk when trading.

You will be successful as long as you continue to learn and improve your skills and knowledge.

You are not learning and growing everyday, you are dying!
It is just like when a plant stops growing, it is dying very soon…

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jmot Said,
March 14th, 2008 @9:18 am  

very encouraging word from Wai Ling! the thing with trading is that EVERYBODY claims that they are making BIG BUCKS. EVERYBODY claims that their strategy works and others don’t. so we are confused by EVERYBODY :)

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Ray Said,
March 16th, 2008 @11:32 am  

Hi jmot, I’m curious here, but is there a reason why you pick forex, futures, and options as your vehicles for success? Why not concentrating on just one? I mean, after all everybody knows there’s no magic bullet–people have become millionaires from all 3.

So why not pick just one and become really, really, really good at it instead of dividing your time and brainpower into 3 topics?

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Wai Ling Said,
March 17th, 2008 @5:59 pm  

Yeah, that’s true. I believe that trading is about finding strategies that suit your personality. So, we got to keep trying. Not all the strategies out there are suitable to everybody because the mentors are just different to us when come to personality and character. For example, the risk that is beariable by the mentors might not be acceptable to us. Hence, it might be a low risk entry strategy to some but a big risk to others.

So, we got to keep trying to find the right strategy that we can stomach to be successful.

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Ray Said,
March 20th, 2008 @12:31 am  

Wah… very sad my comment never got moderated, still awaiting moderation…

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jmot Said,
March 20th, 2008 @12:18 pm  

hi Wai Ling, exactly. the strategies that the educators preach may have worked for them. but their strategies may not be suitable for people from all walks of life. for instance, some can monitor the US market throughout the entire session which means sacrificing sleep from 9:30 pm SGT to 4:30 am SGT but others cant.

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jmot Said,
March 20th, 2008 @12:25 pm  

hi Ray! cheer up dude =) apologies for the delay. work, trading and kid have been keeping me very busy lately.

i have stopped trying options as of now. my results for the past 1 year of live trading have not be satisfactory. currently, i am working my way through forex and futures, more focus on futures though. being exposed to all 3 allow me to decide for myself which instrument is more suitable for me. all educators would claim the instrument that they are teaching is good. not a very objective assessment. though there are certain instrument specific knowledge, the trading fundamentals applies to all instruments. so the switch was not all that difficult.

how about you? which instrument are you doing now?

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Wai Ling Said,
March 20th, 2008 @1:18 pm  

JMOT,
As long as it is a financial instrument/money making tool that is suitable to you (your personality, risk profile, belief, etc), it is fine.

I do agree that we should start and focus on one at a time till we master it…

Cheers!

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Ray Said,
March 20th, 2008 @9:38 pm  

Hehe thanks JMOT :)

I tried a few, from stocks, made quite a bit during the bull run, then options, playing gap and got burned painfully after a few nights of 100% returns. Lately I’ve been hearing about Forex… but I wonder if I should really stick to options and try to go through the Options Course (Fontanellis) or whether I should give up and try FX or Futures or something.

My worry is that maybe, just maybe, I am actually in The Dip (Seth Godin) phase. If I persevere a few weeks or months more, maybe I can and will become a decent options trader. But there’s no way to know eh?

For the moment I’m sticking with options though. It kinda aligns itself nicely with what I’m doing.

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jmot Said,
March 23rd, 2008 @12:04 am  

hi Ray, i though Seth Godin is a marketeer? :P would his philosophies work for trading?? :P

most importantly is to stick to your money management rules strictly and try to stay in the game!

all the best!

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Ray Said,
March 25th, 2008 @1:33 pm  

Hey Jmot, yes, Seth Godin is a marketer. Recently he wrote this book The Dip, which discusses about the “dip” that most people have to go through before reaching a higher level. I think most of us who have learned how to play a musical instrument will have experienced this–you are sucky for so long, but if you persist, then one day everything will just become real easy.

So right now I may be in The Dip with regards to options. I’ll give it about a year more and if it still doesn’t work, then I’ll move to something else. I’m following your blog though to find out about the alternatives as well :)

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jmot Said,
March 26th, 2008 @12:34 am  

well, truth betold…so far all successful traders that i met lost money before they made it. there may be some truth to the dip afterall :)

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May 11th, 2008 @9:37 pm  

Hello,

For those willing to proceed in forex ,I would like to suggest the avoidance of “bucket shop brokers”. It is like trading with a stand alone company and a software.You will loose big time.

On the other hand you can choose an ECN which has a direct feed from banks and they are making real transactions with banks.That means that, when you press the order button ,your order doesn’t stay in the server of your ECN broker but is forward to the network of colaborating Banks.

A good solution for low capital is www.mbrading.com (from 400$) and www.interactivebrokers.com (from 10.000$). Search the web for reviews about those two.

A very nice tool which will improve definately your trading is www.ninjatrader.com software. You can connect the above brokers with this software and enjoy top notch 1 sec ,or 1 tik charts and above, plus predefined strategies with a mouse click direct from the chart or the “ladder” .Eg auto breakeven,autotrail,Complicated strategies as TP 20, SL 20 ,AUTOTRAIL after 4 pips by one pip and reduce sl to 16, plus when 12 pip target reached 2 pips autotrail sl 5 pips. That was a paradigm of the available senarios you can make.

My opinion is stay away from mt4 platform and never, I mean never open an account to someone unregulated without an ecn feed.

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jmot Said,
May 14th, 2008 @5:51 am  

hi ck, very informative. btw, are you talking about mbtrading.com instead of mbrading.com?

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