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mygif
April 15th, 2008 @6:37 pm  

It is also known as slippage. It is important to know and understand, not knowing it will eat into you cost of your trading. Slippage and commission can drain your trading profits especially when you over trade.

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jmot Said,
April 16th, 2008 @1:27 pm  

hi Ronald, definitely agree with you on this!

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Mattail Lee Said,
April 19th, 2008 @3:23 am  

definitely agree with Donald too, it’s important to know and understand… so theres something i don’t understand. what is known as slippage?

mygif
April 21st, 2008 @3:57 am  

I’ve seen new traders blindsided by it! It’s good to see the basics being taught.

My advice to people starting out is to find a seasoned coach/mentor and learn a proven method and trade it with discipline. Avoid the gimmicky “systems” and miracle software gurus and you’ll do fine. I did!

-Max

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jmot Said,
April 22nd, 2008 @2:18 am  

I believe slippage = spread which is the difference between the bid and ask price…

we really have to be beware of things that sound too good to be true!

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He Shuhan Said,
April 26th, 2008 @10:31 pm  

Hi Chris,

Nice quantitative analysis but 1 important thing you missed out on the qualitative side.

Yes you saved a few dollars more on commissions with IBFX in comparison to MBT.

However, in MBT, because of the tight slippage and natural trading (Ie. It displays real bid-ask instead of massaged prices), you will be able to breakeven very quickly whereas in IBFX it takes ages.

Imagine you spotted an opportunity, calculated your probabilities, sized your position exposure (and sharpe ratios and sortino ratios and whatever more practical means). You entered as position. 3 mins later you realize that its not going your way and you can’t swap out a 6 pair currency turn (which is typically what pros like us do to bail out liquidity), and you want to get out of your position.

NOW:

You immediately take another round of slippage, probably 1-2 pips more on IBFX because you are pipped off your market order in the dealer desk (IBFX claims they are fully ECN but that’s half truth as their prices are not natural).

Whereas on MBT, you probably can get out with 1pip of profit, enough to pay for your commission and some left to pay for 1 nice packet of chicken rice (of course we don’t trade for chicken rice remember?).

The lesson is: At any trading capital, first priority is spread, spread, spread!

What is the thing Reuters D2 and EBS slug it out so badly to fight for Investment Bank dealers? Its’ the spreads, then the speed, then the reliability, THEN the commissions.

Good analysis though, but you need to think deeper than that.

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jmot Said,
April 29th, 2008 @1:01 am  

very enlightening! thanks!

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