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Brendan Said,
November 15th, 2008 @2:24 pm  

There are 4 traders in my team:
1 of them has been working as a bank forex trader for 30 years,
another 1 has been working as a bank forex trader for 20 plus years.

We often discuss about the “forex gurus” advertised in the newspaper. They said he have been in the industry for 20 plus years, and they know almost everyone of them (since they also trade in inter-bank), but they have not seen those “forex gurus” before.

That really puzzles us.

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Brendan Said,
November 15th, 2008 @2:30 pm  

You had mentioned the issue of time frame to me before. May I know what is your time frame?

In today’s world, major currency pairs can move 400 pips in 1 days. So if you do not want to trade intra-day, then you have to place your stop more than 400 pips away.

Say you are trading the smallest contract, which is 1 mini => 10,000. So 400 pips away would mean you are taking the risk of US$400.

Dont you think that US$400 (which is S$600), is too big a risk to take for 1 mini trade?

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jmot Said,
November 17th, 2008 @10:31 am  

none at all? this is indeed puzzling…i mean some of them claim that they are ex-bank traders themselves and some even claim they train bank traders!

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jmot Said,
November 17th, 2008 @10:44 am  

i am trading the 1h charts now. yes, i agree that the range is huge. but now many online brokerages offer 0.1 mini lot kind of a trading size. if not, can also look for those that offers micro lots. so it should not be an issue.

assume there is this strategy that offer 60% success rate, has risk-reward ratio 1:1, and it works for both 5 min and daily charts.

when i use it on the 5 min chart, say my stop loss would have to be 20 pips. there could be 10 of such trade setups that made money. so i got 200 pips for the day. but i may have to make 17 trades to get that 10 winning trades for that day!

on 1 hr chart, my stop loss would have to be 200pips and i can already make 200 pips, well, not each day. but perhaps it will take 2-3 days to close a trade.

contrast the level of stress a person experience in the above scenarios.

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Brendan Said,
November 18th, 2008 @12:06 am  

Yes none at all. My colleagues are from reputation banks, ie JP Morgan, Calyon, UOB, SCB.

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tradeforex Said,
January 10th, 2009 @4:14 am  

Hi

Can u guys advised how to trade in Daily ? the cut loss is at least 100 pips away!!?? the risk is worth ? by the way can advised which moving average u most guys are using ???

i trade in 15min time frame and find entry in 5min timeframe, so far results was not too bad but seems very tiring , try to tune to 1hr but always triggle cut loss , any advised ??

Cheers

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Brendan Said,
January 11th, 2009 @3:04 pm  

hi tradeforex, you are asking the right question. many of my readers had brought up this issue before. if a trader is looking at daily time frame then the stop has to be very far, 200 - 500 pips away. this is too high risk for most traders. so I use 1 hourly chart to determine my entry level.
time frame less than 1 hour is unpredictable and inconsistent, in my view.

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Patrick Said,
February 10th, 2009 @4:14 pm  

In my opinion, the answer to how far away your stop loss need to be should not be just be dependent on the timeframe itself. The type of currency pair you trade is just as important. Different currency pairs has different violatility. For eg. USD/JPY typical moves about 150-200 pips daily while GBP/JPY tends to move over 400 pips per day. I have seen almost 2000 pips move on GBP/JPY alone recently.

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jmot Said,
February 11th, 2009 @11:11 am  

hi Patrick, agree. and if i comparing 2 different timeframes using the same currency pair, then the stop loss will be very different for the different timeframes. thanks for contributing.

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Brendan Said,
February 11th, 2009 @11:21 am  

JPY and GBP are the wild animals in the forex market. Nowadays I avoid trading them.

I just focus on AUDUSD, EURUSD, USDCHF, USDCAD.

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coconut Said,
November 14th, 2009 @3:12 pm  

full of excuses

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coconut Said,
November 14th, 2009 @3:16 pm  

“hi Patrick, agree. and if i comparing 2 different timeframes using the same currency pair, then the stop loss will be very different for the different timeframes. thanks for contributing.”

use the shorter time frames for stop loss.

use the longer time frames for trailing stop, stop and reverse or stop for break out.

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coconut Said,
November 14th, 2009 @11:40 pm  

i’m not sure you understand it.

what ever the case, design your trading that will cut the losses short and ride the winner long, as long as possible. i’m sure you heard of it before, but its very true.

don’t care how many small losses you produced,as long as they are small. important thing is to produce one big winner, that will “override” all your losses.

how long, as long as the market let you. can be 1 day, can be 10 years. who cares.

i have a small gold position that i bought in year 2000, and believe me or not, i’m still holding it.

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